Genealogy in general; Genealogy of Western Kentucky; Middle age and thoughts on life.
Friday, October 6, 2023
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Tuesday, April 4, 2023
Wednesday, January 4, 2023
It's been a year and a half since my last post
Friday, July 2, 2021
More Lyon County Kentucky Residents (1930's - 1940's)
FamilyTree DNA has come out with an extensive redesign of their site
Thursday, July 1, 2021
July 1, 2021
I've been posting quite a few old pictures to the Facebook Group "Lyon County Love Affair - Kentucky Celebration" lately. I have quite a few pictures, from my grandmother and her sister, that show MANY people who lived in Lyon county. They're not all relatives, although they might be, as my ancestors have been in Caldwell/Lyon/Trigg for a couple hundred years. That means that I probably share DNA with most of these people, but haven't researched ALL the people who are not within three generations or so. It's been a satisfying thing to do. I wish everyone on the group would do it, as we ALL probably have pictures that contain someone else's ancestors and I know I'd LOVE to see pictures that other people have of MY ancestors.
Here's an example of one I posted:
This is one of my Aunt Iva Cummins (1880-1957). I used the MyHeritage site (to which I have a subscription, but you can do a certain number of enhancements without a subscription). Post those pictures folks!!!!!
Monday, December 28, 2020
Oh The Places I Have Been (Sorry Dr Seuss)
The last time I looked for the number, I found that only about 15% of the world's records have been digitized and indexed. New records have a good chance of being digitized and there are valiant efforts being made to digitize old records. As I continue my genealogy journey, I was thinking about future researchers and where they will have to look for records of our family and where I continue to look for my ancestors.
In our little family, I was born in Kentucky; husband born in Texas; three children born in Turkey, North Carolina and Tennessee. When I was born, our family lived in one county, but I was born in the adjoining county because our home county had no hospital. The same is true for one of my grandchildren. His parents lived in one county but the hospital was in a different county, which also happened to be in a different state!
Being from western Kentucky, researchers are used to looking across county and state lines for birth and marriage records, and that was in looking for records of families who had been born in the same county for multiple generations. On my side of the family, I was the fourth generation to be born in that same Kentucky County (although it did change names in 1854), and in several of my lines, I am the fifth generation to be born/live in that exact same place. Looking at the birth places of my children, I think it's going to be more difficult for researchers (especially for the one born in Turkey!!).
New genealogists are so used to jumping online and looking at trees and thinking they've found all their family. Trees are hints. Trees are not sources nor are they proof. You need documents to "prove" something. Even documents that are primary sources may contain some secondary information that's not to be trusted as correct. For instance, a death record is a primary source as it was created at the time of the event (death), but also included on that document is often information that is NOT primary, AND that doesn't mean that errors can't happen with that primary information also. Sometimes you'll find the names of the parents on that death certificate. Well, the person who died did not give them that information. Who did? The informant is usually listed on the document. If the informant was a sibling of the deceased, then the information is probably (maybe) correct. If the names of the parents were given by the cousin of the sister of the brother-in-law, then not so much.
I have a death certificate of my husband's great grandmother, with her name shown on the death certificate as Lady Clara Henson. We did not know the names of her parents. The only clue I had were the names, listed as the parents, on the death certificate. Those names were given by a granddaughter of the deceased person. I looked for those people, on and off, for twenty years. She had died in Dallas TX and the death certificate said she was born in Memphis TN. No. She was born in Davidson County TN (Nashville) I found later in a printout of a funeral packet. One census showed her dad as born in GA and her mother as AL. The next would show TN and VA. This great grandmother had been married at least twice also, with the second husband being part of the paternal side of her daughter's husband's family (sorry for that convoluted statement, but that's how that research went). On the death certificate the father was listed as Will Guinn and the mother as Margeurite Goodall. I had information from family members of the identity of the siblings of his great grandmother, so I had found her (between marriages) and her children were listed. I finally ordered the death certificates of those siblings to compare the parents listed on them to the ones listed on the death certificate of the great grandmother. The name of the mother on the certificate of one of the siblings listed the mother as Margaret Nanney and the other listed her as unknown, and the father was listed as Mart Guinn, rather than Will on one and Mark Quinn on the other. So onward with the search for Will or William or Mart or Martin or Mark or any other combination I could find.
Finally, a visit to the Tennessee Archives in Nashville Tennessee produced a marriage license, from 1861 between Martin Gwin and Margaret James Nanny. Further research showed these two to be the parents of Lady Clara Guynn in Texas. I learned a LOT by that long, painful search. Now onward to my next mystery!! I still don't know how that person came up with Goodall as a surname.
Good luck with your mysteries and remember your sources in the new year, 2021, and here's hoping we get to open the archives and libraries with healthy, happy people sooner than later!
Thursday, August 6, 2020
I'M STILL HERE
I haven't added to my blog in a year or more. I've been active in teaching DNA webinars during COVID and teaching DNA classes before COVID, and playing with active grandkids for the last few years. I'm still here. I'll hopefully add something useful to my site....... soon.
Debbie
Friday, March 22, 2019
Moving from GEDMATCH to GEDMATCH/GENESIS
Sunday, April 22, 2018
Learn about DNA:
1. Beginner's Guide of DNA Resources (ISOGG): https://isogg.org/wiki/Beginners'_guides_to_genetic_genealogy
2. Learn about genetic genealogy (ISOGG): https://isogg.org/
3. Genealogical DNA testing myths (OSOGG): https://isogg.org/wiki/Genealogical_DNA_testing_myths
4. Genetics Glossary (ISOGG): https://isogg.org/wiki/Genetics_Glossary
5. Autosomal DNA (ISOGG): https://isogg.org/wiki/Portal:Autosomal_DNA
6. Mitochondrial DNA (ISOGG): https://isogg.org/wiki/Portal:Mitochondrial_DNA
7. Y-chromosome DNA (ISOGG): https://isogg.org/wiki/Portal:Y-chromosome_DNA
HINT: After you have ordered your DNA kit and before you receive your results, log in to the company from which you ordered the test, read the FAQ and Help files and tutorials. Also create or upload your tree to the site and set up your profile for the site. After your DNA results are available, LINK your DNA to your name on your tree. Now comes the hard work, analysis AND fun!
DNA Link Pages:
Cyndi's List of DNA Resources: https://cyndislist.com/dna/
Genie Links - http://www.genie1.com.au/links
YouTube has MANY videos on Getting Started with DNA Research
Example: Do a search on YouTube for DNA Bettinger or search for DNA genealogy, you'll see several interviews and classes by Blaine Bettinger and useful videos.
Useful charts, tools and methods to help in determining relationships with DNA:
1. Shared cM Project chart - https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2017/08/26/august-2017-update-to-the-shared-cm-project/
2. The McGuire Method: http://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2017/03/19/guest-post-the-mcguire-method-simplified-visual-dna-comparisons/
3. X-Chromosome inheritance charts - http://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/
4. Y and Mitochondrial (mtDNA) inheritance - https://isogg.org/wiki/Paths_of_DNA_inheritance
5. Mirror Trees - http://www.borninneworleans.com/how-to/what-is-a-mirror-tree/
6. More on Mirror Trees - https://dna-explained.com/2017/07/29/concepts-mirror-trees/
(update 4 Jul 2018 - Mirror Trees are used less often now)
7. DNA Mapping - https://isogg.org/wiki/Chromosome_mapping
8. DNAGEDCOM - http://www.dnagedcom.com/adsa/adsamanual.html.php
9. More on DNAGEDCOM - http://blog.kittycooper.com/2017/09/solving-unknown-parentage-cases-with-dna/#more-5321
10. DNA Painter Part 1 - https://dna-explained.com/2018/03/28/dna-painter-chromosome-sudoku-for-genetic-genealogy-addicts/
11. DNA Painter Part 2 - https://dna-explained.com/2018/04/04/dnapainter-mining-vendor-matches-to-paint-your-chromosomes/
12. DNA Painter Parts 3 & 4 - TBD
13. The DNA Green Chart - http://thednageek.com/the-limits-of-predicting-relationships-using-dna/
14. MAPMY23 - tool for transferring Ancestry data to FamilyTreeDNA - http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php
15. Genetic Genealogy Using GEDMATCH - http://smithplanet.com/stuff/gedmatch.htm
Blogs on DNA:
1. DNAeXplained - Genetic Genealogy - Blog by Roberta Estes - https://dna-explained.com/
2. The Genetic Genealogist - Blog by Blaine Bettinger - https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/
3. KittyCooper's Blog - Blog by Kitty Cooper - http://blog.kittycooper.com/
Useful DNA Facebook Groups:
1. GEDmatch.com User Group
2. Autosomal DNA-Gedmatch-FTDNA-23andME-Ancestry-MyHeritage
3. GEDmatch Lazarus Tool
4. DNA Detectives
5. Genetic Genealogy Tips & Techniques
6. Genealogy! Just ask!
7. Kentucky DNA and Genealogy- (one I read, but look for YOUR state)
8. GAA (Genealogy Addicts Anonymous)
9. FTDNA User Group
10. DNA for Genealogy
11. Ancestry DNA Matching
12. DNA Painter User Group
13. DNA Newbie
14. Genome Mate Pro
15. DNAGedcom User Group
The four major testing companies in our presentation:
1. Ancestry - https://www.ancestry.com/
2. FamilyTree DNA (FTDNA) - https://www.familytreedna.com/
3. 23andMe - https://www.23andme.com/
4. MyHeritageDNA - https://www.myheritage.com/
Sunday, February 11, 2018
#52ancestors - Valentine
Thursday, February 1, 2018
#52ancestors - In The Census
One more note. Those frustrating things that happen between those ten years between census records:
A birth and subsequent death of a child (pre birth certificates; no burial record as probably buried on the home farm.....
A marriage and divorce in between census records.
A marriage and a death between census records.....
More mysteries....
Wednesday, January 31, 2018
#52ancestors - Who would I have liked to invite to dinner
So many things I'd want to know. So little time at a dinner.
I would have loved to talk with Willard C Town. He was my first ancestor to move to Kentucky. He arrived before 1840. In 1830, in Ohio, his dad, Willard Oliver Town, left home and "headed west", never to be heard from again. I would like to know about that. What was his dad's reason for heading west? Many questions. I knew nothing about Willard C Town until I started researching my family in 1977. He was my Second Great Grandfather. HIS fourth great grandfather was the brother of two women hanged for being witches in Salem MA. Did Willard C know this? Were they better at handing down family info than our current generations? My Willard C was born in Vermont, but moved with his parents and siblings to Ohio before he moved to Kentucky. The family of witches was in MA and then in VT. Maybe he knew. The fifth great grandfather of Willard C Town was our immigrant ancestor from England. I would love to know what Willard C knew. I'd love to know what his trip was like from Vermont to Ohio. Why did he move to Kentucky? He married in 1840, not long after his arrival. He did in 1847. He was about 43 years old. I don't know how or why he died. He left a wife and two very small sons. I want to know everything and I know so little.
I would also have liked to talk with David Bigham, whose father was born in Ireland. What did he know about the trip by ship to North/South Carolina from Ireland.....
I would love to hear about the life of Beulah Chittenden, my fourth great grandmother. She was the daughter of Thomas Chittenden, who was the first governor of Vermont. She married Elijah Galusha, who died at the age of 23, in a sawmill accident. He had served in the Revolutionary War. She then married Mathew Lyon, who became a representative from Kentucky and the first person in this country to ever be charged with sedition. They moved to Eddyville Kentucky, from Vermont. What was her life like?
I would love another chance to sit down with my own grandparents and ask them the questions I never asked as a child and very young woman.
Other questions: A second great grandmother had 15 children, losing the first four as very young children or infants. What was her life like?
Can't wait for that time machine to be invented.
Tuesday, January 16, 2018
#52ancestors - Longevity
Tuesday, January 9, 2018
#52ancestors - Favorite Photo
I'm posting my favorite photo of MY side of the family today. I've probably posted it before, but it's still my favorite. This is a picture of my grandmother, Mary Evelyn Cummins (Gray), on the porch of their farm house, with some of her sisters. This picture was taken in May 1907 in Lyon County Kentucky. My grandmother was born in 1888, so would have been 19 years old.
Pictured, from L to R are: Nina C Cummins 1893-1911, Fannie G Cummins 1876-1948, Iva Cummins, 1880-1957, Willie Moses Cummins 1886-1963, Mary Evelyn Cummins (Gray) 1888-1981, Rebecca Cummins (Gresham).
Not pictured are oldest child John Wesley "Pat" Cummins 1874-1959, and Nonia Cummins (Oliver) 1883-1963.
The parents of these children were Michael Harvey Cummins 1845-1918 and Sarah Ann Warfield 1855-1893. My grandmother was only five when her mother died and I've been told that her sister Fannie took over the responsibility of the household and the younger children. Of all these children, only John Wesley, Nonia and Mary Evelyn had children who survived them.
I've also been told that Iva, Fannie and Willie ran a boarding house in Eddyville.
Monday, January 1, 2018
#52ancestors - Weekly Activities
I've been sending my kids more tidbits of interesting (I think it's interesting) stories on their ancestors, recently. This is a notice to them that they'll be seeing more, hopefully.
Happy New Year.
Friday, October 27, 2017
Triangulation Tool for FTDNA
Tuesday, October 24, 2017
New Album by the Wailin' Jennys
https://www.prairiehome.org/story/2017/10/12/fifteen-wailin-jennys
Saturday, October 21, 2017
The History of Lyon County Kentucky Lyon County Kentucky INDEX
With permission of the Herald Ledger Newspaper, these posts, in my blog
are a transcription of a special publication of the Lyon County Historical
Society and the Herald ledger Newspaper from July 3, 1996. I didn't
scan the pictures from the articles at the time I entered these (2008), so
I'd be glad to do that upon request. Send email to debatchley@gmail.com.
Here's the link in my blog. You might want to scan down and read the
first one first, and then scroll up to Part 19, or do a search of a specific article. Various Kentucky
residents wrote the articles. It's a great look at our history:
http://debs-midlife.blogspot.com/search/label/Lyon%20County%20Kentucky
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 19 (FINAL) 5/10/08 The Smith House by Bill Young
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 18 5/9/08 The Parkersville Lodge by Dale Hayhugh
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 17 5/8/08 The O'Daniel House by Odell Walker
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 16 5/7/08 Cobb's Battery by Glenn Martin & Dewey One Room School by Odell Walker
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 15 5/6/08 the Kelly Kettle by Odell Walker
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 14 5/5/08 The Hawley House by Odell Walker & The Skinner House by Cindy Simpson
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 13 5/4/08 The Battle of Saratoga by Odell Walker
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 12 5/3/08 Governor Charles Anderson by Odell
Walker
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 11 5/2/08 The Woodruff House by Margaret Wilford
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 10 5/2/08 New Bethel Baptist Church by Odell Walker
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 9 4/30/08 Rose Hill - The Cobb House by Odell
Walker
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 8 4/29/08 The Kentucky State Penitentiary (continued
2) by Bill Cunningham
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 7 4/28/08 The Kentucky State Penitentiary
(continued 1) by Bill Cunningham
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 6 4/27/08 The Kentucky State Penitentiary by Bill
Cunningham
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 5 4/26/08 The History of Lyon County by Odell
Walker (continued 4)
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 4 4/25/08 The History of Lyon County by Odell
Walker (continued 3)
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 3 4/24/08 The History of Lyon County by Odell
Walker (continued 2)
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 2 4/23/08 The History of Lyon County by Odell
Walker (continued 1)
The History of Lyon County Kentucky - Part 1 4/22/08 The History of Lyon County by Odell
Walker




